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Post by Joliette Thorne on Jun 25, 2007 5:00:26 GMT -5
Okay, this thread is for sharing hints and tips on good roleplaying manners.
If you could, please write the name of your hint in the title-box of the reply. And do please keep it constructive.
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Post by Terra on Jul 17, 2007 3:14:11 GMT -5
I hate that command. I can't tell you how many times Terra has came in from the north only to be bombarded with posts about people waving, calling for a drink, or starting conversation. She could be half-dead, bloodied, and simply looking for help and they'll never know.
I'm thinking we need to learn to take turns. Don't tackle a person into a corner. Allow them to not only "appear from the north" but to post an entrance so you can get a feel for their character, or atleast let them sit down and settle. I mean, hell, that's deciding what their character is doing and everything else. People get so up-in-arms over it any other time, why do it now? And I realize that you're not harming anyone by doing it, but it's just not fair. There are times I'd like to play my other rp; the dancer, and people will immediately respond to me as Terra when I enter that room. I don't want to be mean and ignore the posts, but it's going to happen if you won't give me time to post.
To sum up this mini-rant: Let someone post first, and then have your character respond. It's only proper.
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Post by Terra on Jul 17, 2007 3:17:17 GMT -5
You're in the middle of an RP, say it's a picnic. Foods, drinks, blankets, they're all dropped and laying there for your ability to retrieve them. How would it make you feel to have someone swoop into the room, ignore the on-going RP, and pick them all up? I've seen it happen so many times, even if the item is clearly being used. When you enter a room and see "somany blood wine are here" that does NOT mean pick them up and shove them away for inventory. That means to either ask if they're being used, wait until it's confirmed in RP, or find some way for your character to interact with the item or person involved. I'm sure you'd hate for me to go into your room and start picking up stuff to shove in my pockets (though why I'm in your room, I don't know).
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Post by Joliette Thorne on Jul 17, 2007 12:11:08 GMT -5
Pease, please, don't assume that when you walk into a room where there's a maiden-in-distress meeping in terror at some immediate threat to her life, that you must immediately post her rescue - with yourself as the hero, of course.
At least, wait a post or two, to get a feel for what's happening in the room, or maybe send a tell asking if she would like to be saved from the monster/kidnapper/spider crawling up her leg.
Problem is, sometimes these scenes are plot-important and/or just being thoroughly enjoyed by a bunch of people rp'ing them already, so storming in and squashing the spider/monster/kidnapper in your first post might put a bit of a damper on the fun.
Just remember: sometimes the damsel doesn't -want- to be saved right away, or magically transported away from the danger, or whatever. So posting yourself mauling her attacker to death or --worse -- picking her up and removing her from the danger is not only very bad rp manners (akin to god-moding in a duel), but could mess up somebody's plot/fun in a big way.
</rant>
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Post by Deilakrion on Jul 27, 2007 14:12:08 GMT -5
This is something just about all of us, including me, do. Rather than wait upon coming into a large gathering of people--tavern or otherwise--the majority of us posts first and asks questions later. Often, it is largely inappropriate.
I've been on the giving and receiving end of this. Often, I have come in to a tav when a few people are in an argument or fight. But Deila just walzes in as if the place is dead with a few drunkards sleeping off their drink. It's ah. . .kinda embarassing. You know, someone just threw a table at the entryway, and here's deilakrion, impervious to any sort of object. She must have force shields of some kind. . .
On the other hand, how often have I roleplayed Deila standing in front of the door, as she likes to do, and have people just walk through her like she doesn't exist? Doors are tricky things. Or, better yet, have there be some dramatic confrontation between her and one of her predator friends, only to have someone walk in, slap her conversant on the back and act like nothins goin down.
We must be patient. >.< Or, at the very least, ask if anything is happening. *shrugs* It makes the flow better.
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Post by cathcham on Aug 7, 2007 2:55:34 GMT -5
On Terra's comment about people walking in on a RP situation and just grabbing whatever is there. I've got this party tomorrow (if I'm unmuted!) and have had to buy about 10x what I need because I know some idiots are going to walk in, grab 100 wine and 100 bread and walk out without RPing at all. Of course these idiots will be the first to moan that the game is boring cos there is not enough RPing.
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Post by vesyn on Aug 7, 2007 18:03:53 GMT -5
You don't know everyone's name, nor are you immediately friends with them. I, for one, get extremely pissed off when someone is like, "Hey, Kolovair! Howz et goin?" You don't know him, damnit! >.> No one does as of yet, and it should stay that way for a good while! My point it, that you shouldn't assume that you suddenly know the person's name... it's rude when taking into consideration the realism in RP. This leads me to my next point. Proper grammar should at least attempted to be used. People who don't attempt to write well on this game are just... noobishly rude. In conclusion, type properly and you don't know me! >.>
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Post by malandros on Aug 7, 2007 18:42:57 GMT -5
In regards to Vesyn.
It seems a higher population has forgotten that Hollow isn't only for a higher aged crowd. There are many young people around, of whom cannot spell or interact on a more adult-like basis. The game is meant to come, write, chat and have fun. If talking without grammar is what people do, and have fun doing it, who's to judge? I do understand why people would be aggrivated with the lack of consideration when posting, but it's not a priority that should even be considered. Unlike us, with well developed minds, some people aren't so fortunate.
Taking a game to a serious level will waste your advil. There's my RP advice for the day. Relax, have fun...write. Remember that not everyone has the vocabulary you do, and when speaking...they're only trying to make you enjoy the game. Afterall, if nobody was speaking with you...It'd be a dull waste of time.
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Post by vesyn on Aug 7, 2007 20:11:01 GMT -5
Let me get at a better point. Terms such as 'lol, rofl, etc' shouldn't be used in in-character communication. Also, some children do indeed have a grasp of mild grammar. I can understand most things-- I used to arpee on a game where there was a major lack of grammar. Capitals and periods should still be used. I think that it makes it easier to read, and therefore is quite polite. =] Jus' my opinion, probably a bad one at that.
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Post by Deilakrion on Aug 7, 2007 21:19:54 GMT -5
No one's opinion is bad.
But to elaborate on Vesyn's point, it does become mildly frustrating when people persist--after you have tried to kindly inform the person in a tell some tips-- in mixing ooc in whilst rping. Be it not our place as rpers to judge others, it still becomes a pain when you are trying to involve everyone but that one stubborn person is making it difficult.
My manners advice? Selective exclusion. Perhaps this is what makes me one of those snobby elitist scum-of-hollow, but I don't care. If a person cannot or will not interact in my view of the world in a way that I find acceptable then I will simply ignore his or her posts until they do. Any game that involves rp is just that: a game. I find it bad sport to thusly allow someone to ruin your enjoyment of your experience.
At the same time though, one has to remember to always give people other chances. As melandros stated, it is dull when no one responds. Also, it is easy to blacklist someone and forever be inclined to dislike his or her rp. It's hard to be fair, sometimes, but everyone's experience will ripen and blossom the more participation there is. Doesn't mean you have to teach people to rp, but it is nice to be willing to accept that a particular individual has become ready to join you in your vision.
*cough*
Yeah, I'm a snob >.>
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Post by malandros on Aug 7, 2007 21:52:25 GMT -5
Aye. I imagine that grammar would play a factor in a large RP. But in all reality, when it's just writing for the fun of it...Try not to bicker so much. Perhaps one day they'll find it in themselves to start writing LIKE you, if you give them a chance. Patience is a virtue not too many people allow right now. I think it'd be nice if the writers would take more time to touch base with these people and attempt to help. It's one thing to invite someone to write with you, it's another to train them to be like you. I hope that one day writers will unite, and build a game solely based around our pristine ability!
Elitist forever!
Just kidding >.<
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Post by kasyr on Aug 8, 2007 16:35:23 GMT -5
To make a point, I used to be more grammatically incorrect then I am currently and could barely strive past a post of 3 or four lines >.>. I'm proof that a little effort and practice can get you past those "omg rofflecopter" stages in life /rp change now speech >.>.
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Post by sidonia on Aug 21, 2007 11:53:06 GMT -5
First of all, let me say that I am a grammar freak. Er, tyrant, more like. But I do acknowledge that not all people are such sticklers, and typos do happen. I also know that one can be a good rp-er or writer without having good grammar! Therefore, my love of grammar doesn't determine who I rp with. Nor does post length, though I must say it's in my list of rp manners to at least try and achieve the post length of whoever I'm rp-ing with. It's just kind of disheartening to put a lot of effort into a long, paragraph post and have the person do a one-liner back. Yeah. I try not to ignore people-- I generally like to rp with just about anyone. But it's usually the people who don't acknowledge what's going on in the room at the time without an explanation, such as being blind or completely unconcerned, or mix ooc and ic knowledge that I avoid. Just a thought. Glad you guys don't do that. Hee. <3
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Post by Martina on Sept 4, 2007 14:56:57 GMT -5
Just a suggestion, but this worked on another game I played and might help on Hollow...
When RPing with a group, upon 'entering' the area, someone should do a brief scene post. This would be simply saying where the chars are located in the room, if there's an argument, that sort of thing. They also took turns posting. This kept the spoofs of one person typing a post and submitting it only to find out that while doing so, another has posted faster, and now the first person's post is messed up. When a person comes into a scene, they should wait, allow someone to do a scene post, ask whom they post after in a tell or OOC say post, and then post their entry when it's their turn.
Removes a lot of confusion and makes for a smoother RP experience. At least it does in my opinion.
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Post by vincent on Apr 27, 2008 12:27:01 GMT -5
Be durable when Roleplaying. There is nothing more frusterating as when another player ignores another one's post by either a) rendering it completely useless and a waste of time. (Never letting anything bad or inconvenient happen to your character, also known as God modding or Powerplaying or something) or b) Ignoring it completely and writing about something else. It generally is a good idea to give your RP partner something to work with. Try and meet them halfway. What I do is I try and look at it from there side, as if it was me. Would I be mad if someone completely went over my head? Auto-dodged me, or ignored my post and went on with their own? On the same note, and this is more dueling oriented, if you constantly try and "slice off your opponent's head" or "cut off his legs" is he more inclined to take the damage or evade it? He'll probably do whatever it takes not to lose those parts of his body. Try not to be so final-strike oriented so often and I guarentee you will have better duels and/or RP. Tell me what you think
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Post by Jaidin Traye on May 13, 2008 12:31:26 GMT -5
Try not to be so final-strike oriented so often and I guarentee you will have better duels and/or RP. Tell me what you think I think you're absolutely correct, here. Most of us all have it so engrained in our minds that to be the better duelist we -have- to have these uber, amazing wonderful god-like attacks; that's not true! Now, I realize that there is a lot of grey area in regards to dueling and that what I'm about to say could be disputed a lot, but: it's my opinion that creativity and giving the other something they can work with is much more important than... well, killing the other player. At least, the side of this long-argument that is labelled "fun".
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Post by Rheven on Dec 13, 2009 15:18:14 GMT -5
*necro's this old thread*
I have something to add.
If you are going to sit in the tavern, road, any public place - or, anywhere for that matter - oocly when your character is not really present, please, always have an "Icly not here" or "ooc only" pet or something akin to that present.
Nothing is more annoying than walking into the tavern and posting to someone only to have them say they 'aren't there icly'. If you are not there icly, either place the 'ooc' in your pet name or stay in the ooc board room.
Another note: If you are RPing in a public place with someone and someone else posts into an RP between you and someone else, do NOT ignore it. That is just bad form. I have seen it happen from time to time.
If you must have a private RP with someone else, go somewhere remote. Doing so in a tavern or somewhere like that and then ignoring someone else's post because of your desire not to have it 'interrupted' is nonsense.
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Post by Parsithius on Dec 13, 2009 15:57:06 GMT -5
Heheheh, Rheven. He knows what he's talkin' 'bout!
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Post by taeme on Dec 14, 2009 6:58:36 GMT -5
Playing the blind can be tastefully done and, I agree, does not exclude one from being party to any and all events taking place in any given scenario. Taeme -is- blind due to an accident with magic which did a whole bunch of nasty things to her.
However, if you're character has a disability that cannot be fixed you should RP accordingly. A nod or smile given to a blind person will go unnoticed because they cannot see it. Similarly, a deaf character would not be able to hear their friends laughter and would need to rely upon visual clues.
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Post by taeme on Dec 14, 2009 18:50:12 GMT -5
So here are a few that get me...
I can fully accept that my inexperience gives me cause to seek advice, tips and ideas on how to better my writing and RP style; however, it is most annoying when someone is willing to dish out criticism to their hearts content, but cannot hear it of their own work. If you're going to say something to someone else, be willing to listen to what another may have to say to help you improve.
Take into account that even though you've oodles of time to sit before the computer and play, others you are playing with still have RL situations that may occur. They have families, jobs, schoolwork or may get a phone call, pets. Whatever the reason, they might need to leave the computer for a short time to take care of one issue or another. Patience is key and always appreciated. It is polite to say, "Hey, I'll be back in a few, I need to take care of something." Yet, if a child falls and hurts themselves they may forget. Curtsy will cover miles and oceans.
No two people have the same ideals, standards or behaviors. Something one person may see as degrading may not seem as much to another person.
Everyone is human, no one is perfect.
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